Wednesday, May 21, 2008

SEACC, jobs, mining, Coeur,

SEACC!!!!

OK, I have been enjoying outdoor time lately and have been too tired each night to get a post up.

Back to SEACC...I've been researching a bit about their "successes."

If you go to their site: http://www.seacc.org/ they proudly boast about taking down our two pulp mills in Southeast Alaska. Costing hundreds of jobs instantly and thousands of Alaskan jobs that are related to the timber industry. Costing us millions in tax dollars and millions in money that would have been spent supporting our local businesses.

I grew up in Ketchikan and Juneau and let me tell you...The people that held those pulp mill jobs and the lumberjacks themselves took great pride in the job they were doing. They took great pride in the fact they were harvesting an incredible renewable resource. They took pride in the fact they were providing timber and paper to Americans so we wouldn't be dependent on Asian timber and pulp.

Now, thanks to SEACC millions of acres of trees are being destroyed in Asia and Siberia with no chance of recovery because they are being managed by corrupt governments and aren't being reseeded. There is no regulation over there.

If you go to the lands that Louisiana Pacific harvested back in the 70's and 80's around Ketchikan they are ready to be harvested again.

I ask you this: "How in the world is SEACC helping when you look at it from this perspective?"

They will show you some propoganda photos of some clear cut areas on Chichigof and Admiralty Islands where one of the Native Corporations did some irresponsible cutting.

Nothing but propoganda and it couldn't be further from the truth.

Now, here in Juneau and surrounding villages we are getting the same kind of treatment.
Soon we will be dependent on nothing but tourism because they won't stop with Kensington.

They have been quietly working behind the scenes to stop the road. They move money around amonsgt their other partner companies: Earthjustice, Sierra Club, Alaska Society of American Forest Dwellers, Chichagof Conservation Council Customary, Traditional Gathering Council of Kake, Friends of Berners Bay, Friends of Glacier Bay, Juneau Audubon Society, Lisianski Inlet Resource Council, Lower Chatham Conservation Society, Lynn Canal Conservation, Narrows Conservation Coalition, Prince of Wales Conservation League, Sierra Club, Juneau Group, Sitka Conservation Society, Taku Conservation Society, Tongass Conservation Society, Wrangell Resource Council or the Yakutat Resource Conservation Council...

My guess is that most of these locals aren't that gullible and SEAC has set up these "local" groups to sound more powerful...

They even have a program calling for their members to make them the beneficiaries to their life insurance policies, wills, retirement plans, and get this...they want fishermen to pass on their IFQ's! HAHAHAHA...(Wiping tears away)

The biggest challenge we face as Juneauites and Alaska Natives is that we all have families to support and activities to do with our kids. Basically, we have life to live....

SEACC's "job" is to defeat our ability to make our lives better by preventing development in mining and timber.

They have teams of lawyers writing grant applications...They claim to be a "non-profit" and have accountants cooking the books to keep up the appearance...They have folks that get a hold of young, maleable minds and coerce them into thinking that by coming up here and fighting the "good" fight that they doing a noble, worthwhile thing...

I guess the least these young granolas could do would be to at least shower once a week...

I am forwarding this post to Russel Heath and giving him a chance to respond...I will post anything he sends me...propoganda or not.

43 comments:

The Coffin Dancer said...

By the way...I got my electric bill today and it was only $297!!!

I haven't seen it yet, my S.O. told me so...I have to see if it's a whole month or not. If thats true then we've cut our consumption about 70%!

Mr. Not PC said...

Excellent start, will be interesting if Russell and crew respond to you...I take it he voted positive impacts from SEACC on your poll.
Keep up the good work and will be nice to see some light shining on them under their rock.

The Coffin Dancer said...

Interesting...I bet it was either him or Buck Lickensomthing or other...I don't remember but I forwarded it to both of them...

Anonymous said...

No that was me! A longtime SEACC supporter. I've been going up to Berners Bay since I was 12 years old with my father and were not about to some mining company ruin it. I'm in my 50's and I still travel to Alaska to go to Berners Bay in all of it's glory. You don't really understand what you are doing!

Anonymous said...

So anonymous, I'm also in my 50s and have been going to Berners Bay in all its glory. Born & raised in JNU. But, like me, you no longer live there. I ask you, at what point to you let the residence and not us "visitors" we have become, decide what is best for them?

The Coffin Dancer said...

Still no response from Mr. Heath...But it looks like he visited since most of our visitors would be honest when voting about SEACC's effect on us as Juneau residents.

Anonymous said...

Of course their not going to respnd to you you ignorant fuck! I canmt be silent anymore.No one comes to your site anyways but this is a stupid post and you don't know what your talking about. The stuff about the pulp mills is your own propaganda! Get a life Prancer!

Twirl And Tweak said...

UNH, when were you ever silent? And I'm pretty sure you just called yourself a nobody. Oops.

Anonymous said...

Who is the ignorant one UNH? You are the one that is crude, rude and the complete definition of ignorant. Maybe if you could stop with all the profanities someone might even take you seriously.

ConservoMom said...

dude your blog ate my comment! I will try again.

ConservoMom said...

The closure of the pulp mills at the hands of SEACC is not propaganda, nor is it urban legend. It is fact. Just ask one of the 3000 people who lost jobs and had to relocate, since I am one of them I will tell you it was very real. We fought the good fight and lost to the deep pockets and well oiled media machine of SEACC. Now they are going after the miners and after them it will be the fishermen until every resource job in Alaska is gone. Sorry to tell you UNH but McDonald's and the guvmint can't absorb us all. We all love and appreciate the beauty and wilds of Alaska, that's why we are here. SEACC's grand plan to make all of Alaska a wilderness area has got to stop there is room for everyone-except maybe them.

Anonymous said...

UNH Grad: what is that, the University of Negative Horseshit? You can't spell, you can't punctuate, and you are just plain rude. Go back to the University of No Hope and get a life yourself.
CoffinDancer, thanks for the blog. Keep it up.

Anonymous said...

WHo can afford to shower once a week? Electricity is too high to keep the water heater turned on!

The Coffin Dancer said...

Welcome Mikey and welcome back conservomom...Not sure how my blog ate your comment...I appreciate your comments on what SEACC Did to you and your family. That is so tragic. Ketchikan was such an awesom community when I was a kid. The mill workers were the best bunch of people. We lived up on Carlana and there was a great construction boom at the top of Hill Road...I look back on my youth in Ketchikan with absolute joy and fond memories...
Mikey, always feel free to give the dog a swift kick...I think he likes it(if UNH is a male)

The Coffin Dancer said...

By the way, still no response from Russel at SEACC...I think we knew they were keeping a low profile. I do think they are plugging my poll though. Way too much common sense at this blog for their approval rating to be that high...

The Coffin Dancer said...

By the way we're on Digg.com!!!

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Alaska_s_Capital_Sick_of_Environmental_Extremists

Copy and paste above and get on there and digg us up if you know how...

The Coffin Dancer said...

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Alaska_s_Capital_Sick_of_Environmental_Extremists

The Coffin Dancer said...
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The Coffin Dancer said...

Anonymous,
Apparently the granolas downtown couldn't afford to shower before the prices went up...

ConservoMom said...

Thanks CD, I too have been enjoying the weather and trying to spend more time outside to reduce electric usage. Its a shame their are so many folks who don't see the imminent danger that is SEACC.

Anonymous said...

DEY TUK R JEARBS!!!

ConservoMom said...

More on environmentalists. I was talking with a co-worker of mine, old Juneau with a lot of history. He told me that way back when they were building Snettisham and the lines the Corps wanted to run the lines up closer to the tree line to protect the towers but the environmentalists threw such a fit that they forced the Corps to place those lines where they are. Karma is a biotch and ironic that perhaps part of the reason we and AEL&P are in this boat is due to folks like the tree huggers of SEACC.

Anonymous said...

This blog had very little creditablity with me for a couple of reasons:

1. To say that cuts are ready for harvest again in only 25-35 years is ludicrous. I've seen some 2nd growth on POW in the Harris River Drainage that could be cut again, but it's closer to 80 years old.

2. To say that we should be harvesting timber here and exporting it to asia so they don't rape and pillage their forests is really a crock!

Anonymous said...

Dude. Your blog is dead.


Adios!

The Coffin Dancer said...

Your 80 year old growth might be true in some areas but not all and you know it. Propoganda at it's finest. Even 80 years is a very renewable resource.

The blog is dead because I killed it. This time of year I am rarely home. Rest assured, come campaign time I will be very active, promoting any anti-SEACC candidate.

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